Looks like all the nodes on mudfish are blocked against their pmang server (203.141.243.20).

FYI I'm not sure you already checked this link Black Desert - Japan for Mudfish to know which server is working for you though I'd already refunded your transaction. :-)

Yeah, I did read that link too. Anyways, I managed to get it to work but you already refunded so it's all good. I'll probably just buy it again later. I have a question though, do I get charged for traffic if I use Mudfish to login through Pmang's site if I have Subsciption plan and bought Black Desert access??

> Yeah, I did read that link too. Anyways, I managed to get it to work but you already refunded so it's all good. I'll probably just buy it again later.

I'd set a mudfish test credit for your account. :-) So you don't need to buy it for testing. If it's not enough, just let me know; I can handle it for you.

> I have a question though, do I get charged for traffic if I use Mudfish to login through Pmang's site if I have Subsciption plan and bought Black Desert access??

Simple answer is No if your data plan is Subscription. :-)

Wow....Talk about excellent service! You guys are awesome, how I wish everyone in the world knew that excellence!

I'd like to test and game away but my ISP has been giving me RTOs on my connection so I doubt I'll be able to test it properly without pulling my hairs out...

Let me just re-confirm though. As long as I have subscription plan turned on and have bought and equipped something I will never be charged by per data basis??

Also I noticed when I first bought Black Desert it had shown me 28 days left even though it's for 30 days? Is that just a visual bug or...?

> Let me just re-confirm though. As long as I have subscription plan turned on and have bought and equipped something I will never be charged by per data basis??

Yes I can confirm. :-) Please see Data Plans link to see comparision between both.

> Also I noticed when I first bought Black Desert it had shown me 28 days left even though it's for 30 days? Is that just a visual bug or...?

I need to improve this concept little bit not for user to be confused by monthly based calculation. As you know, Feb is one of shortest months in year so the left days could vary depending on days of month.

Yeah, I've seen that link too but I just wanted to hear it from you directly. ( ･ิω･ิ)

Oh....I thought it wasn't based on calendar days but just 30 days since it's written that you're paying for 30 days.

So it doesn't actually count 30 days from the time of first day purchase but goes according to how many days there is in the month that you've purchased and then count that X number of days after purchase??

I think you should just make it 30 days regardless of the month so people don't get confused on 28, 29, 30 or 31 days that you can get based on the monthly calendar.

Yes correct and I agree with you that I need to fix this issue. :-) Thank you for your opinion!

No, no, thank YOU for providing such an awesome service!

Region restrictions totally ruins everything and your service is totally affordable and awesome!

I can't wait to repurchase and game away soon.

See you around.

Hey loxch, I've tried all the nodes and it's all blocked except one, the one you pointed out. Will you be updating the other nodes so it's not blocked by Pmang anymore? (I'm not even sure it's possible.)

Because the only node I can play from gives me 170-200 ping (after their megaserver update) and I do get frequent timeouts at times even though the node is not crowded. I tried using the advanced two node method in hopes of reducing the lag but it doesn't work (or maybe I'm doing it wrong?).

I also tried using TCP connection to the node but it seems like Black Desert doesn't use it?

Anyways, I just wanted to give you a heads up.

> Hey loxch, I've tried all the nodes and it's all blocked except one, the one you pointed out. Will you be updating the other nodes so it's not blocked by Pmang anymore? (I'm not even sure it's possible.)

Unless expanding mudfish japan nodes, it's not easy topic to solve this issue because Pmang blocked IPv4 address ranges used by VPN or other providers.

> Because the only node I can play from gives me 170-200 ping (after their megaserver update) and I do get frequent timeouts at times even though the node is not crowded. I tried using the advanced two node method in hopes of reducing the lag but it doesn't work (or maybe I'm doing it wrong?).

Did you try to used "JP Asia (Tokyo - SakuraNet) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" combo or "JP Asia (Tokyo - Linode2 IDC) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)"? Please make sure that FastConnect mode is turned off at that moment because there is an issue "FastConnect mode + the advanced two node method".

> I also tried using TCP connection to the node but it seems like Black Desert doesn't use it?

If UDP is working on your environment, you don't need to change it to TCP at all. :-)

Wow...blocking IPv4 address ranges!? wouldn't that eliminate possible customers for them in Japan itself??

Are you able to get new IPv4 addresses then? If you keep refreshing the IPv4 addresses I'm sure they'll stop banning since they'll just end up banning legit users from accessing their service lol...I'm really curious though why only Softbank works? Maybe Softbank's infrastructure is different??

I'll try that right now and see how it goes, thanks for the tip!

Okay, I thought I might try TCP instead of the default UDP to see if there's any changes for the better on my end.

(^ ,^)b

WOW, it worked! "JP Asia (Tokyo - SakuraNet) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" combo. I haven't tried "JP Asia (Tokyo - Linode2 IDC) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" yet but it looks like I can get 140 ping and notice the lag in-game is almost none! I'll try the Linode2 IDC combo after giving SakuraNet combo a few hours of gameplay!

> Wow...blocking IPv4 address ranges!? wouldn't that eliminate possible customers for them in Japan itself??

Normally not because they already know which IPv4 address are assigned to their own ISP registers. Most banned IPv4 ranges are one from foreign ISPs or who doesn't provide a service to client.

> Are you able to get new IPv4 addresses then? If you keep refreshing the IPv4 addresses I'm sure they'll stop banning since they'll just end up banning legit users from accessing their service lol...I'm really curious though why only Softbank works? Maybe Softbank's infrastructure is different??

No. infrastructure is same. I think they forgot or don't know that they should block this IP range. :-p However I'm still looking more japan servers to solve this issue. If there are any good news, I'll let you know.

> WOW, it worked! "JP Asia (Tokyo - SakuraNet) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" combo. I haven't tried "JP Asia (Tokyo - Linode2 IDC) -> JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" yet but it looks like I can get 140 ping and notice the lag in-game is almost none! I'll try the Linode2 IDC combo after giving SakuraNet combo a few hours of gameplay!

:-) Cool. However please note that your connection could keep changing depending on your ISP or other router's status. So please visit http://mudfish.net/admin/user/rtt_map for more recommends.

hmmm...I'm not quite sure I understood what you said about the IPv4 addresses. From the nodes I actually assume that Mudfish has contracts with different ISPs across the globe in order to provide the VPN service?? Thus, I assume Mudfish has the ability to contact the different ISPs and ask for a IPv4 address change in order to avoid Pmang blocking it? Is this a wrong assumption? XD

Well if they did google around I think it would be very easy to find out and block it O_O...

Okay, thanks!

I actually did look up the rtt_map list and have tried some of them and it didn't work. I actually thought it wasn't possible to use the two nodes anymore since I already tried a few the other time and it didn't work. So I was actually VERY surprised that it worked yesterday!

> hmmm...I'm not quite sure I understood what you said about the IPv4 addresses. From the nodes I actually assume that Mudfish has contracts with different ISPs across the globe in order to provide the VPN service?? Thus, I assume Mudfish has the ability to contact the different ISPs and ask for a IPv4 address change in order to avoid Pmang blocking it? Is this a wrong assumption? XD

Yes you're understanding correctly. However my upstream provider has a limited range of IP addresss too. :-) So it doesn't help at all with CIDR C class or D class's IP address changes because Pmang blocks whole IP ragnes.

> Well if they did google around I think it would be very easy to find out and block it O_O...

:-) I hope they don't know about Mudfish yet.

Hmm...I guess Mudfish needs more upstream providers then XD...What's up with game providers restricting access though =-=" I never understood it.....The Internet was supposed to be a decentralized place for everyone to enjoy and yet we still see stupid restrictions and censorship all over...It is so sad...

How long has Mudfish been around? O_O It says from 2011 at the bottom of the page?

It's ironic how the Korean publishers are restricting access and yet you guys, Mudfish from Korea are providing access lol....

> Hmm...I guess Mudfish needs more upstream providers then XD...What's up with game providers restricting access though =-=" I never understood it.....The Internet was supposed to be a decentralized place for everyone to enjoy and yet we still see stupid restrictions and censorship all over...It is so sad...

Because it's all money!!! :-) IT society isn't decentralized at all and as you know all IPv4 and IPv6 addresses are under control of groups of ISPs (these are controlled by nations).

> How long has Mudfish been around? O_O It says from 2011 at the bottom of the page?

Yep. It's around 6 years though most of mudfish users were korean. :-)

> It's ironic how the Korean publishers are restricting access and yet you guys, Mudfish from Korea are providing access lol....

Yes I agree. However they only know why they're doing like this. I'm guessing that it's more related with licensing issue.

hahaha, so true...but I thought the ranges were big enough to ensure blocking wasn't a viable option O_O..
Ahh...I never heard of Mudfish too actually until recently when I started to google on such services like WTFast. WTFast's price is ridiculous...It's like I'm paying for another half ISP service..
It's 2016 and the world hasn't changed one bit...we're still arguing over what's mine and yours instead of thinking globally for the whole of human kind...

EDIT:oh wow you guys got a Jakarta node now!? I think my ping's going to be the lowest if I route through it O_O...was about to try it but the blackdesert's server is under maintenance..bummer.

Yes recently it's added but I'm not sure its provider is stable enough to play games. :-)

oh...never mind though it doesn't work either..it's being blocked.
The two nodes method don't seem to be working again. The ping seems to be 1k. I can see this from the graphs from Mudfish platform.
I guess I'll just stick to connecting to one then.

EDIT: The disconnects in-game is happening again while connected to one node. Is there something wrong on Mudfish's side?? The ping to Mudfish seems to be 400+ right now.

EDIT2: My connection to 14.63.213.39 by Mudrun is showing 400+ ping. Mudrun didn't use to show such a high ping. I think it started to appear to be 400+ from yesterday.

> EDIT: The disconnects in-game is happening again while connected to one node. Is there something wrong on Mudfish's side?? The ping to Mudfish seems to be 400+ right now.

I'm still seeing the following error messages from your desktop.

[357.267716] [ERROR] re23: MUDEC_00262: ODR_sendto() error to 210.151.40.200: Message too long. Check your path MTU. (curmtu 1400 buflen 1414)

Did you try to fix this error before? This could be related with disconnection issue.

> EDIT2: My connection to 14.63.213.39 by Mudrun is showing 400+ ping. Mudrun didn't use to show such a high ping. I think it started to appear to be 400+ from yesterday.

Could did you measure this ping? Is it from Resource Monitor? Because 14.63.213.39 IP blocks ICMP pakcets, I don't think it's from ping command.

Yeah, MTU is fixed. It's just false positive since I've set it all to 1400.

Yeah, it's from Resource Monitor's readings.

I traced the route to 14.63.213.39, which is Mudfish server and it seems like along the way (Singapore, yesterday) I'm getting high latency.(http://2.1m.yt/EPECPWh.png) (France, today?)

Any way to re-route or whatever that may be a possible workaround??

EDIT: The disconnects are very random and it's occurring very often...packets being dropped along the way??

EDIT2: I think I actually fixed it...It was the MTU value on my router that might have been causing me to dropout randomly. I changed the MTU value on my router and I haven't been disconnected, only once I think.

:-) I'm not sure what was a fundamental reason for your case. But good to hear that it's your router issue.

However when I looked at your traceroute image, I got confused. Is it really one from your desktop? Your packet is going to Germany to access South korea. Very interesting..

It's because I had set my router MTU value to 1400 also. But Mudfish is hitching on Chrome for the connection? So it actually takes up more than just 1400 which is what VPNs just needed?

Yes, it is from my desktop! The other day it was from Singapore so I actually expected it to be routing from Singapore again but when I looked it up it was going through Germany =-="....Are moments like that just out of our control??

But I can confirm I'm not having disconnect issues anymore ever since I changed my router's MTU to 1500.

I couldn't grasp what was wrong either at first but when you mentioned the MTU again I thought it might actually not be a false positive so I went to read up more about MTUs. So I fiddled around with my own desktop MTU values and whatnot.

Then, I tried my router's MTU value instead since I actually didn't know what MTU was at first and I only knew that when my ISP would give me RTO connections I just had to change the MTU values and it would sort of tone down the RTOs for me and let me still use the Internet.

> It's because I had set my router MTU value to 1400 also. But Mudfish is hitching on Chrome for the connection? So it actually takes up more than just 1400 which is what VPNs just needed?

I can understand about what you explain. Yes I think that'd be a reason why MUDEC-00262 error code happens.

> Yes, it is from my desktop! The other day it was from Singapore so I actually expected it to be routing from Singapore again but when I looked it up it was going through Germany =-="....Are moments like that just out of our control??

It seems your ISP's routing policy is in wrong status or out of control. Or sometimes ISP could pass packets to other routes (upstreams) to save a traffic cost. :-)

> But I can confirm I'm not having disconnect issues anymore ever since I changed my router's MTU to 1500.
I couldn't grasp what was wrong either at first but when you mentioned the MTU again I thought it might actually not be a false positive so I went to read up more about MTUs. So I fiddled around with my own desktop MTU values and whatnot.
Then, I tried my router's MTU value instead since I actually didn't know what MTU was at first and I only knew that when my ISP would give me RTO connections I just had to change the MTU values and it would sort of tone down the RTOs for me and let me still use the Internet.

I think you becomes more MTU experts. :-) Depending on how to set MTU on upper-side (in this case, your router) hop, your inner-side hops (in this case, your desktops or phones) are affected. Specially for UDP datagrams.

Hey loxch, I just noticed from yesterday onwards I was able to login and launch the launcher on pmang's site without using the extension O_O...is it possible that the region unlock was removed?? Can you confirm this?? Or is it some kind of machine learning ip un-restrict script that they have on their end that has whitelisted me to login directly??

This is getting so weird....

EDIT: Okay, never mind...I just tried it without Mudfish turned on and I couldn't login...I think it's something to do with Mudfish being on...=-="

Are you using web browser extension of Mudfish? If then please make sure that no proxy setting was there at that moment. :-)

Yeah, I installed the extension but I wasn't connected to any but I could login O_O...So it's like even though I'm not connected it somehow plays a part?? I think it's a bug though....

hi can someone tell me the simple steps in setting up the jp vpn using mudfish to play BDO jp server.

i keep getting error MUDEC_00031
:/, maybe my setting are wrong

What error is that?? I can't even find a reference to it lol...

yeah i dk lol. that's why i am asking for help haha. need the proper steps in setting up the mudpish vpn. i am lost@@..

I think you should start your own thread, you're basically replying under my thread if I'm not mistaken...and I think it'd be very hard for loxch to keep track of it.

Try to read up on my thread I bet you'll see something useful since I was new to Mudfish too.

Read up on the documentation and FAQs too while you're at it.

ahahha sure. sorry about that :D

lol, it's not about me...it's to make it easier for loxch to get back to you. I can't imagine how he's replying to each and every one here...

@mingming89 I checked you opened your own topic so I'll add my comment on it. :-)

Hey loxch the server seems to have spikes these days...Is it being overcrowded?? Or is it just their servers lagging??

Frankly speaking, it might be or not if you're telling about "JP Asia (Tokyo - SoftBank)" node. When I looked into node load averages, it's not too high at all that it means it's okay to handle such traffics in a node view. But it could relate with other network devices. If you get a chance, please analayze it with http://pingplotter.com/ against mudfish node or game server. I think it'd tell more details about what's going on the network.

Ughh, I'm not too keen on installing additional Softwares so I guess I'll just wait it out and see.

I'm the only user on my network so it's definitely not extra lag from my user end.

My hypothesis is either my ISP routing or Black Desert's servers if Mudfish node is running fine, which I have no control over so I really won't bother..Black Desert connection seems rather choppy after their Megaserver implementation.

Thanks for looking into the node though!

No problem. Please let me know if there are anything I can help you. :-)

Yeah, will do loxch. I noticed adjusting my router's MTU to 1450 did improve my experience in-game though.

Interesting.. Did you change it from 1500 to 1450 bytes?

Yeah. It is weird isn't it...But I think it's something to do with my ISP side limiting the MTU possibly or something else.

:-) Okay I see. Thank you for update. However at next time please create a new topic instead of adding a comment to this topic because this topic becomes a quite longer.